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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Oct 23, 2011 8:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

The king is dead, long live the king:

http://www.dead.net/almanac/d/#dead-music

Early bird subscription rate for four 2012 volumes is $95.50, which is a $30 savings over the normal rate. $125.50 divided by 4 is $31 per. Are these going to be like two complete shows or what? We'll see in February I guess.

EDIT: I see the first volume will be Mosque 1977. A 153-minute show on 3 CDs for $31, just because it's a limited issue of 12,000 copies? Hmmm.

SECOND EDIT: And why oh why didn't they call it "Dave's Faves"?

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2011-10-24 03:32:40

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 24, 2011 6:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

Dave's Faves has nice ring to it!

I find the concept behind this one a little curious. I don't really understand the limited edition aspect for these releases, unless they simply aren't selling that many and are trying to falsely create demand. I also find the subscription approach to complicate matters. I refuse to purchase 3 shows without any knowledge of what they will be in advance. I had no issues ponying up for the Eurobox because i knew what i was getting so its not about the cost its about being forced to purchase in the blind. For the Road Trips series I think i ended up purchasing half of the releases. Now with the limited edition it seems to add a little pressure to make sure you get the releases you want as well as the bonus disc. I would love to have the Mosque show, it is probably my favorite May '77 show, however if i miss it, i am perfectly happy with the CM transfer that i already have.

Oh yeah, I wonder if the Road Trips subscription resulted in a more even sales distribution of the last volume. In other words did making people purchase shows from all eras result in better sales of shows from eras that are in less demand? I would be interested to see how the '80s shows released in Volume 5 sold relative to the shows from the '80s/'90s present in earlier volumes.

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2011-10-24 13:22:05

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 24, 2011 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

> i am perfectly happy with the CM transfer that i already have.

I am right there w/ you. I think I may spring for the June '76 latest offering though. But, if not, I am more then content w/ what I have here on IA and LL.

I wish they would release just '77 shows for a while. Make it a Box Set over time. Whole segments of the fan base will be happy and they won't touch anything I listen to.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 24, 2011 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

I agree - I just can't get behind prepaying for three unknown releases, especially when the first release - marvelous though it may be - is from the most heavily-covered month in their history.

Now watch they'll drop the Buffalo symphony show in there somehow ...

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 24, 2011 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

The price seem a little steep, but not crazy . The "limited edition" thing IS "bullshit" , E72 box, ok, but this ...
Also.with the passing of the Road Trip's series, I think there were some good ideas for it's "m.o." that were never used . Some late era shows would benefit from NOT being released as a full show , but the highlight are worth hearing .
They wasted issue on giving us highlightts of shows that would have benefited form having the whole thing ( that 7/16 & 18/74 issue ...WTF !).
And yes I love 77, but man, a little more interesting choice . Been nice if they could have pulled a uncirculated show out of the hat .
I will bite, but, I wish I could be a little more happy about this .

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Poster: Ernie Bo-Peep Date: Oct 24, 2011 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

The $30 savings is reflected in the free shipping offer. Take that out and the price for the next release will be the old standard 23.99 of thereabouts.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 23, 2011 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

I'm disappointed with the first pick. Idk the show that well or anything but I'm sick of always seeing spring 77 everywhere. How about something amazing from early 73? I only know of one release from then.

And idk about the whole limited edition shit. Its neat but at the same time they're taking down shows here so a mere 12,000 can have the quality hard copy. I know about loop holes but I still feel its a bit silly.

May I also comment on the incredibly lame clothes they continue to make. The new columbia jacket is sweet but expensive. Everything else is blah. How about some T's with the euro 72 art?

This post was modified by wisconsindead on 2011-10-24 04:22:24

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 24, 2011 6:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

"Its neat but at the same time they're taking down shows here so a mere 12,000 can have the quality hard copy."

Honestly why should they care what is available here? They will point to the other 1000 plus shows people can listen to and in the case of the auds, download for free. I don't think this place should have any effect on the decision-making process. As I mentioned somewhere else in this thread, i do find the limited release aspect to be a bit curious. It seems like they are always trying to create demand for their products via bonus discs, personalized boxes, free shipping and now limited releases. It seems surprising that there isn't already demand, no?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 24, 2011 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

You bring up valid points. I still am greedy and want all shows available for stream, at the tip of my fingers.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 24, 2011 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

I don't think that is greedy at all, i think its pretty normal. This place is so damn convenient. I just think it is also too easy to forget that it is privilege not a right to have the level of access to Grateful Dead music that is we currently enjoy and we shouldn't get too upset about the 1-2% that isn't available for free but is still available.

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Poster: cvenez Date: Oct 28, 2011 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

I may be in the minority here, but as someone who very rarely buys actual CD's anymore, I find it very annoying that they are not realeasing any of these new series/shows in a downloadable format. I have yet to buy anything from the Road Trips series, the Europe discs, etc. because I don't see the point in spending the money on something that's going to be relegated to a box in my basement after I download the songs to my computer/mp3 player. I would love to see them resurrect the Download series, or at least make the new stuff available in both CD and downloadable formats.

My intent here is not to complain, but it just seems odd that a band that was light years ahead of the rest of the music world in terms of making their stuff readily available is taking a step backward here. I would think there are others out there who feel the same. Or maybe it's just me...

In the meantime, if they don't make of the newer music available for download, I already know which releases I'll eventually break down and buy!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 28, 2011 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

You are definitely not in the minority. I have mentioned here before that i once talked to someone who raises money in for cancer research within the music industry and they indicated that the profit margin on downloadable music was actually much worse than CDs so in a niche market like Grateful Dead concert releases, they may simply not make enough money via downloads. Remember Rhino paid the band upfront for the access to release, so the boys have been paid. That may explain why they have no issues with using livedownloads.com for Further shows, but all the GD releases are CDs.

I do believe it is a niche market and that is why they are doing things like subscription series and limited editions to create demand. If you could sell 100,000 copies of something, why limit it to 12,500?

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Oct 25, 2011 7:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dave's Picks: The next series of commercial releases

"It seems surprising that there isn't already demand, no? "

I'm not sure about the demand. It's highly unlikely the the band is attracting newer, younger fans in the same numbers as when they were a full time touring outfit. As for the older fans, we all know how it goes: music tends to slide a few notches down he priority scale as we get older. There's still a certain segment of the fan base who will shell out for each and every new offering, but I suspect its shrinking every year, so they're trying to lure more folks in with the bonus discs, limited releases, etc.